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YOST
SHWAB (1678-1735) or (1656-1727)
Yost Swope in
both forms is considered the first Swope on American soil
Q: Why the two
seperate birth and death dates?
A: Because
Yost's reinternment grave & the first source [G E Swope's "The
Swope Family 1696-1896" published 1898] so outlined him, & the 2nd
["The Swope Family Book of Remembrance" by Morse & McLachlan
published 1972] evaluated & changed that data to accomodate their findings
Q: So why don't
you just accept the newer findings with no more thought?
A: Because
of a lingering question regarding the original death slab & the first
source citation to the family bible as perhaps substantiating the reinternment
tombstone & so not allowing for manipulation to accomodate the
later source decision to change those dates .
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G E Swope was limited by the time frame in which he lived. For much of his book he relied on the correspondance of then living progeny. But in regards to Yost Swope, G E Swope referred in addition to a then extant family bible and five birth records at that time held in family member's possesion. He did not transcribe these sources in his text. He mentions that oral tradition maintains that Yost was son of a Burgomeister in Leimen. |
This work of Morse and Maclachlan is diligent in the extreme, and endeavors to connect Yost Schwab, the headwater ancestor identified by Gilbert Swope as ëson of a burgomeisterí to wife and parentage. There were many Yost Swopes in that area of Germany,and their task was not easy. Through the records and a letter from the Pastor of the Lutheran Church at Duhren written 1962 they determined that our Yost was Yost ě Schwaben sur Duhren bei Sinscheimî and that the Anna Katarina unknown surname (identified by G.E. Swope) was in fact Anna Katarina Wolfhardt prior to marriage, and further determined a name for Yostís father (not a burgomeister, and they comment no record of a Swope burgomeister in Leimen was found, however they show that Anna Catharina, born 9 October 1663, was the daughter of the Mayor of Duehren: Hans Jorg Wolfhardt/Wohlfahrt and his wife, Anna Haagen. ). BUT, to accomodate the marriage to this wife of Yost (identified by them as Anna Catharina Wolfhardt) they had to move back the birthdate given by G E Swope. They also moved forward his death date based on the settling of Yost Swope's estate. Both birth and death dates present on the grave in Heller's Church are not contemporaneous to Yost's passing (It is a second grave and the stone was erected on the occasion of his reinternment ). There were many Yost Schwabs from the area of Germany in question. Anna Katharina is likewise a common name. They substantiate this redefining of his life span via parish records in which they connected him to progeny and offer much explanation and data to support their decision. |
The Children of Both Sources viewed side by side: About German naming patterns:
It was common even for Prostestants to continue the Catholic practise of Saints names for a family. Thus it is that both girls and boys in the generations of many, not just our Swope line,German speaking American ancestors would all have the same first [Saints] name, followed by the name by which they were actually called within the family circle and in society in general. It also was not uncommon for a new child to be given the name of a previously deceased one.
For more information on German Naming Patterns and 18th century Pa German Naming Patterns see links.
The
5 Children of Yost id'd by G E Swope
[as detailed by G E Swope 1898] married Anna Katharina SURNAME UNKNOWN ] |
The
11 Children of Yost id'd by Morse & McLachlin
From the point of Yost SCHWAB's son Johannes SCHWAB, his wife and their progeny, the pages are no longer affected by this question on the dual identities of Yost SCHWAB. For purposes of clarity, the spouses and children of the Swope's in this list of children identified in the Swope Family Book of Remembrance as siblings to each other and children of Yost SWOPE and Anna Katarina WOLFHARDT, are provided in descendancy from the page "Yost as identified by The Swope Family Book of Remembrance" within these Within the Vines webpages, even when they align with the children as shown by G E SWOPE. They are confined in this way to prevent further confusion. The spouses and children of those listed here who correspond to the children identified by G E Swope will not be found also descending from the page entitled "Yost as identified by G E Swope" |